Started in the mid-eighties as a musician and booker in a youth centre, later worked as a stage hand in the feyenoord stadium rotterdam, and from that point on did tours as a stage builder, rigger for many years. since i moved to germany, i felt the need to continue working in the industry with new training/qualifications, so i got into the safety-technical part of the job via via, supported many promoters in their implementation and later also did the permit business and related work.